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Santry

Santry (Irish: Seantrabh, meaning “Old tribe”) is a suburb on the Northside of Dublin, Ireland, bordering Coolock, Glasnevin and Ballymun. Today it straddles the boundary of Dublin City and Fingal County Council area.

The character of the area has changed in the last 100 years, from a district centred on a large demesne / estate, and later small village, to a modern, rather dispersed, mixed-use suburb. Much of the old village is gone and where there were once fields full of crops, and wild woodlands of all sorts, there are now housing estates, a park, an athletics stadium, a shopping complex, industrial parks and busy roads leading to Dublin Airport. Morton Stadium is now the home to the League of Ireland club - Sporting Fingal - until their permanent home ground is constructed in the Swords/Donabate area. The Trinity College Library has a depository at Santry which holds three million books.

History

Santry is an anglicisation of the Irish placename Sean Triabh (pronounced Shan-treev) which literally means “old tribe”. Although nobody can be quite sure, the book of Leccan refers to a tribe called the Almanii who inhabited the area, who might have been the source of the name.

During the Viking invasions a number of peaceful Norse farmers moved into the North Dublin area, which proved to be excellent farmland. These Norsemen were famous for their agricultural prowess, crafts and fishing skills. They also brought new pastimes and strange Scandinavian phrases which are thought to survive to today further away from the city. The gregarious, direct, rogueish and outgoing character of the Norsemen may be something that endures with what Dublin people understand as a “Northsider”.

After this time people began to refer to the area north of the River Tolka, including from Santry and north to Swords, Lusk, and beyond as “Fingal”, which translates as “fair-haired foreigner”. The name was confined to songs, poems, folk memory and some antiquarian titles until a re-organization of local government in the 1990s set up Fingal and Fingal County Council.

In the 12th century, the neighbourhood of Santry was plundered by Murcadh Ua Maeleachlain, King of Meath, in revenge for the death of his son at the hands of Mac Gilla Mocholmog, chief of Fingal, who then established his base in Santry.

In 1581 the lands and title of Santry were awarded to William Nugent who then lost it after falling out of favour with the Crown because of his religion. In 1620 the lands of Santry were confiscated from Nugent’s aristocratic but Catholic offspring, the Barnewalls. The Protestant Barry family (originally from Cork) took charge of the estate and tenants and became the Lords of Santry where they remained in title for three or four generations. King Charles II made Sir James Barry, then only a knight, Baron of Santry (for services rendered).

In the mid 18th century, thanks to the black sheep of the Barry family (son of Bridget, nee Domvile), the Lordship of Santry and the House passed to Sir Compton Domville, Bart., (1696-1768).

The mansion was four stories high, in the style of Queen Anne, with high narrow doors and windows like Blenheim House,

resembling on a minor scale Versailles Palace. It comprises a centre and two wings, the latter thrown forward and connected with the main body by covered passages. The square of the front of the house is enclosed with iron gates, and in its midst is a pillar recording the pedigree and death of an Arab steed belonging to the present owner … (Benjamin Adams’ ‘History of the Parish of Santry’, 1884)

One account of the monument to the horse says that ‘Sir Compton Domvile got in a rage with one of his best horses and ordered it to be shot. He rode away to Dublin, but changed his mind and got back just as his order was carried out. He erected this monument in memory of the horse.’ Another account says that for some reason his favourite horse threw him, ‘whereupon he went into the house and returned with a gun and shot it. Later, filled with remorse, he had the monument erected’.

Santry was the scene of violence in the early months of the Irish Rebellion of 1641, when a punitive expedition of Parliamentarians led by Sir Charles Coote mistakenly massacred a group of local farm labourers, who were sleeping in the fields there. Coote had assumed they were rebels preparing to attack Dublin.

During the Williamite war in Ireland, in 1690, the Catholic King James stationed his Jacobite army just to the west of Santry, near Balcurris (now within Ballymun) before setting out to oppose William of Orange at the battle of the Boyne.

In the Irish Rebellion of 1798 United Irishmen from all over Fingal marched south towards Dublin city but were met by a company of local Yeomanry (government militia) from Santry village and were massacred. The bloodshed was so bad in this action that the area at the Northern gateway to Santry Demesne (now near the Little Venice Restaurant) was known as “Bloody Hollows” for several years after. Later a Royal Irish Constabulary station was located on the site of the present-day restaurant.

Features

Santry Demesne (Santry Court)

Santry HouseWhere the new Santry Demesne public park is situated was once a palatial old house and gardens, built in the 1700s. This was once the largest house in North County Dublin and people travelled from far and wide to be received by the owners, the Barry family. Many clues of the house still exist and the park is worth visiting to find the house foundations, front steps, tree avenue and walled garden. A small bend in the Santry River (which forms the boundary of the park today) was widened to create a small pond for the boating pleasure of Georgian ladies and gentlemen who resided at, and visited, the house.

The house fell into disrepair, initially at the turn of the century as the estate proved not to be economically viable but ultimately after the Domville family departed Ireland post-independence in 1921. It came into the possession of the state, who intended to repair it and use it as a mental asylum. This plan was shelved by the start of World War II; the need to increase security around Dublin Airport meant it was used as an army depot, and part of the gardens as a firing range. There are many theories locally about what happened next but it appears as if soldiers of the Irish army caused a fire and the house was severely damaged in 1947, followed by demolition shortly afterwards.

Swiss Cottages

The Swiss Cottages that are still associated with Santry no longer exist. The cottages were built in 1702 by Lady Domville who, after a visit to Switzerland, decided to build 11 Swiss-style cottages for the farm workers and estate staff. Unfortunately 10 of the 11 cottages were demolished due to their dilapidation. While the last remaining cottage still stands in Santry, it is not in its original conception and the building was adapted into an office block in 1984 and today houses a pharmacy. Morton Stadium now stands on the site of what was the gardens at the rear of the house. The only contemporary reminder of the Swiss Cottages is found on the name of a local pub, ‘The Swiss Cottage’.

Santry in the 70s

In 1976 E J McAuliffe, Dublin genealogist, visited the area and described what he saw in a letter of 13 May 1976 to Martin Dunville of Florida, USA. The old village of Santry had gone and all that remained was an old house, bar, shop, and the old church.

‘The wall surrounds the demesne - now grazed by cows - and many fine old trees of an exotic kind remain. The old gate lodge is there but empty, and a new small house appeared near it. After braving the notice ‘beware guard dogs’ I opened the gate, and went to the house, where I met a young lady and told her I was making enquiries for a descendant of the Domvilles. She became immediately most friendly, and told me her name is Mrs Harris, and that she had known an old lady, now deceased, who worked for the Domvilles, who were good landlords, well beloved, and who did much for Santry. Alas, only a few old walls are all that remain of the house, and the monument to the horse has fallen.

‘The old church is well kept, and the small graveyard in which it stands. Here I saw the memorials to Sir Compton, and the old tombstones …’

Transport

Public transport comprises a number of bus routes, operated by Dublin Bus:

  • 16 - From Ballinteer to Santry
  • 16a - From Lower Rathfarnam to Dublin Airport
  • 17a - From Finglas to Kilbarrack via Santry
  • 27b - From Harristown to Eden Quay - turns away from Santry at the Santry Demesne junction
  • 33 - From Balbriggan to Lower Abbey Street
  • 41 - From Swords Manor to Lower Abbey Street
  • 41a - From Swords Manor to Lower Abbey Street (no return service)
  • 41b - From Rolestown to Lower Abbey Street
  • 41c - From Swords Manor to Lower Abbey Street
  • 103 - From Clontarf Dart Station to Omni Shopping Centre
  • 104 - From Clontarf Dart Station to Cappagh Hospital
  • 746 - Dublin Airport to Dun Laoghaire

The Metro North line of the planned Dublin Metro which is predicted to begin operation in 2010 will pass through the nearby suburb of Ballymun.

(Thanks to Wikipedia and the story of Santry House for much of this information.)

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22 Responses to “Santry”

  1. 1
    Jimi:

    Thanks for a great site - I was raised in Santry - Whitehall area and used to roam the many fields and talk to the Gypsies and tramps that hawked in the area. As a boy of 12 I spent some time with the Old Woman who ran the former Santry Post Office from her cottage. Also I picked the wild daffodils in Santry wood until I was chased off by the ‘Gotchee’. I alsp braved vists to the crumpled Santry wood mansion ( supposed to be assosiated to the infamous Hell Fire Club. I also saw the USA President John F Kennedy standing in his open car as the motorcaid drove past the Bill Morton statium. The fields I used to play in are part part of the Motorway.

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    Ciaran Casey:

    Thanks for putting this site together, however I noted that there is no mention of Magenta Hall, Santry. I recently found out that my father was born there in 1923 and I’d love to know more about this building.

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    Keiron:

    Hey this is very informative, I am doing a little project on a radio show about Santry. I would love to talk to Jimmy about those days.
    How do I make contact
    Cheers
    Keiron

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    Adrienne Nugent (Cushnahan):

    Thank you very much for so much information. My son is doing a project in school about Santry in the 1940’s and we really appreciate the effort you have put into the site.

    Thanks again

    Adrienne

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    Tony Keogh:

    Congratulations on a very well researched site. I’m trying to trace any information on my grand-mother Nancy Macmahon who is said to have lived in “Santry Cottage” as a child around the end of the nineteenth century I think. If any of your readers have any knowledge whatsoever of the house (or of her!) please do get in touch by email on tonykeogh “at” hotmail “dot” com. Thankyou.

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    gary:

    I need info on macmahon and magentaa house

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    anita harris:

    any info about life in the swiss cottages in the 1920s .my great grandparents Ann & ? Harris lived in woodbine cottage, also my grand uncle Paddy& Lizzy Harris and their family lived in one…..their children used to go up to the big house for the vegetables….at christmas there was a big party for the children of the area. two of my great aunts dollY &flan worked in the rectors house cooking & cleaning.i would love to hear any more info about same thanks, anita harris

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    DublinLocal.com » Ballymun:

    [...] it is in several townlands, the most significant of which was Stormanstown. The nearest village was Santry Village, property of the Domville [...]

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    Gillian:

    I was asked by a friend in work. My friend and her husband recently moved into northwoods Santry Demesne and asked me to look up about the cried they had heard nightly lately around 2am or 3 am midnight. Is there haunted in the area or an old grave in the area? My friend is not afraid but she was just wondering. Thank you. The cried was calling out help 3 times and fell silent/

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    anita carleton:

    there is a book i got in library FROM ACORNS TO OAKS SANTRY S STORY all info on santry court SWISS
    COTTAGES. names oF those who lived in them, my great grandparents HENRY AND MARY ANN HARRIS lived in ROSE
    cottage ,thier son SAMMY HARRIS worked in the fruit /vegetable gardens in santry court
    for the DOMVILLES.
    HENRY HARRIS owned the original licence for what was later EUGENES and the SWISS COTTAGE .my grandfather
    CHARLIE HARRIS was the trainer for bohiemiens in DALTMOUNT and worked all his life in ELVERY S.. 2 of his daughters are still alive EILEEN & KATHLEEN 96 &93 with terrific memories, they tell me all about the good
    times they had.

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    DublinLocal.com » Feis Seantrabh 2011:

    [...] first Feis Seantrabh will take place on Sunday 15 May at 1.00 pm. in Santry Community Resource [...]

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    Paul Fogarty:

    I grew up on Shanliss Way and loved to go exploring in ” Santry Woods ” as we called it then, that was in the 60,s and 70,s. We also had huge fields behind our house and ” Granny Collins ” farm up near the turn onto Santry Avenue. The Summers seemed to be brighter back then. Im getting all nostalgic now !

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    Aiden Gibson:

    this is a very interesting article but why do I keep hearing that the steps at the top of the avenue are from the original house?they are obviously modern and could not possibly be 300 years old,I have seen pictures of Santry house and the steps looked nothing like those which can be seen today, if they are intended merely as a representation of the original then well and good but they could have had them facing in the right direction.

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    GaelTeic:

    Hi Aidan,
    The article says “Many clues of the house still exist and the park is worth visiting to find the house foundations, front steps, tree avenue and walled garden”. Its fair to say that this was the case before the woods were redeveloped into parkland. By now (2012) the walled garden houses Santry Community Garden http://www.santrycommunitygarden.ie/ and the foundations are gone as far as I know. The steps are new and they face the double row of redwood trees that lead to the statue of the Phoenix.
    Pádraig (for DublinLocal)

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    bob Nugent:

    Hi , does any one have information about Granny Collins i do know that there were 3 Collins children , and were was the Collins farm ? i am also looking for any info on the Thatch ( Public House) and how did Ellen field get its name ?
    Thank you,
    Bob,

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    Paul Fogarty:

    Hi Bon
    I dont have any solid info about Granny Collins. I just remember when I was a small child they brought me around in the blue VW putting up a wire fence around the fields, I also got a cup of tea at the farmhouse that was at the top of Shanliss Way. As I got older I no longer familiar with the family and we used to make ” camps ” out of the bales of hay and that annoyed the farmer who would sneak up on you with that amazingly silent blue VW and suprize you. If I coud go back in time Id give myself a good boot in the behind ! but we really wer,nt trying to annoy the farmer at all. The farmhouse eventually became derelict, but I remember as a small kid playing on an old rusty tractor with metal wheels in the barn there. I have some watercolours done from memory on FB if you want to take a look or even download them your very welcome.
    Many thanks
    Paul Fogarty

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    Ann Collins:

    Just came across this site by accident. Delighted to read the articles. My great grandparents worked on the estate in the late 1890s. Would love to hear from anybody who has records of this time.
    Many thanks
    Ann Collins

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    Sue Edwards:

    searching for Violet Clark, born February 1898. I’ve been to this site before but thought I’d give it another go in asking this question again.
    My late grandmother left a scrap of paper on which she had written “My mother lives at Rose Cottage, Santry. Selina”. The family was amazed to find this as we had always believed what she had been told - that she was abandoned by her parents at the age of around 5, in Leeds, Yorkshire with her younger brother.
    Where could she have got the information from; who might Selina be; what could be the connection to Santry? Does anyone have any information please about a Clark (or Clarke) family living in the Swiss cottages in Santry at the turn of the 19th/20th century? If so, you could help me break down this brick wall and I’d be pleased to hear from you at swedwards1951@gmail.com.

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    alex:

    my dads family grew up in santry in the early part of the 1900s they lived in santry cottage .

  20. 20
    Sue Edwards:

    Hi Alex, Do you know any more about your father’s family in the 1900s? Do you have any census records etc and do any of them mention either someone called Selina, or who lived at Rose Cottage in Santry?

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    Mark Perkins:

    My grandmother Mary Anne Harris lived in Rose Cottage Santry. Her Mother (my great grandmother) also called Mary Anne.
    Mary Anne married my Grandfather George Arthur Perkins and lived in Enfield North London.
    later in the seventies Nan came to live with my family in Stoke Hammond Buckinghamshire.
    sadly Nan passed away in 1977 and is buried with grandad in Enfield.
    my contact details are paintspraying@yahoo.co.uk
    If anyone remembers my nan please drop me a line
    Mark

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    Paul Fogarty:

    Im building a model of the manor house that was at Santry demesne. If anyone would like to see how its going so far you can find photos of it on my fb page. Just look for Paul Fogarty on fb and look through my timeline photos. There is also a photo of it on Santry community garden website,but I have since finished the ” wings ” . Also if anyone has any old photos of the original house to help me with details I would be very greatfull.
    .

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